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04-03-2021, 05:31 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Florence, MT Posts: 175 | Leak under/behind shower Our 2020 Glacier Peak Titanium 28rks started showing a little water coming out from under shower pan, at a wall between the shower and toilet. Took in in to dealer who rechalked the whole thing. A few days later, at end of fall camping, it did it again. They said to bring it back in spring, which we did. They removed and rechalked and went to extreme to seal it up. It has begun doing it again, and have another trip out of state to see the dealer. I'm suspecting a leak in the plumbing. Anyone else experience this? | | |
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04-03-2021, 06:28 PM | #2 | Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Mission BC Posts: 739 | No not me, that sucks. could be the actual shower drain or in the drain piping. A couple inches of water in the tub with drain closed, if leaks down you know its the drain, where it mounts to the tub floor. If it doesnt leak down sounds like a faulty connection under tub. Either you diagnose or leave too the dealer... we all know how leaving it to the dealer can go, never mind the down time. __________________ 2018 Black Rock 24kts, 300 watts Solar, 4-230ah gc2s 2008 Dodge 3500 4x4, 6.7, delete, LB, 6 spd man. Firestone bags. | | |
04-04-2021, 08:12 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Florence, MT Posts: 175 | If I look into the shower pan access I can sometimes see a thin wet trickle down a wall. It's a corner shower, so it has come down one or the other walls. You can never see any puddle under the shower, just where to makes its way to that area by the toilet. This is making me think that it is trucking down, into some channel, then once towing again it tilts slightly to that side. I'm thinking it's either: A) the fittings at faucet or pex elbow B) the vacuum break at faucet Since it's been so well rechalked, I assume it's not a pan issue, and it doesn't matter how you use the shower (not use showerhead shutoff, or close faucet handles to soap up) it's not a leak caused by a pressurized fitting. Also, the drain pipe is dry. | | |
04-04-2021, 08:24 AM | #4 | Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Mission BC Posts: 739 | Ah ok, Agree. Sounds like when it’s out again they’ll have to run water to see what’s happening. __________________ 2018 Black Rock 24kts, 300 watts Solar, 4-230ah gc2s 2008 Dodge 3500 4x4, 6.7, delete, LB, 6 spd man. Firestone bags. | | |
04-04-2021, 09:47 AM | #5 | Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 3,539 | I have the same trailer and agree with your thinking that it is the pex connections at the faucet. The drain hole through the floor is large enough that I doubt a leak there would be seen on the floor, more likely to be in the basem*nt. My other thought is that it may be a broken faucet itself unless the water appears there even when not using the shower. If it is only when using the shower that eliminates the pex connections. I had a faucet break from freezing in my previous ORV after the dealer did some warranty work and it also only leaked when used. I am thinking of swapping to a one lever faucet anyway so if you have a desire for one it could be an opportune time to switch. __________________ 2020 F28 RKS Titanium 2017 Creekside 23 RBS Sold 2016 F250 Super Crew XLT Overworked | | |
04-04-2021, 11:20 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: British Columbia Posts: 174 | Shower tap The shower Tap units are prone to cracking at the t where the water mixes hot and cold and only leak when using shower. Ive seen it a couple times on other rv's and had same symptoms. Water runs down wall and under shower. Worth looking. | | |
04-04-2021, 12:35 PM | #7 | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 26,837 | You have a water line/fitting leak Dealer SHOULD have inspected/pressurized the system to ID Source NOT just Caulk it........... Dealers are Idiots __________________ I took my Medication today. HAVE YOU? Dodge 3500 w/Tractor Motor US NAVY---USS Decatur DDG-31 | | |
04-04-2021, 01:19 PM | #8 | Registered User Outdoors RV Owners Club Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: La Verne, Calif Posts: 3,649 | Dealers only know,,, get it out and say it's fixed, bill the factory. | | |
04-04-2021, 08:30 PM | #9 | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Turner Valley, Alberta Posts: 116 | I too have the exact same trailer and will be falling this one closely. Last fall my shower was leaking down into the wet bay. I caulked the base and it when away. Someone told me on the facebook page that we were not supposed to caulk the pan to the walls. Not sure of the reasoning but I would rather take my chances with it caulked and not have water making a mess of the basem*nt. If mine starts leaking again I will suspect the faucet as pointed out here unless another cause is found. If you find out more please share. __________________ 2020 ORV Glacier Peak F28RKS Titanium 2021 GMC Denali 3500HD srw Duramax - Black Diamond edition | | |
04-04-2021, 08:34 PM | #10 | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 26,837 | Quote: Originally Posted by ktmoore I too have the exact same trailer and will be falling this one closely. Last fall my shower was leaking down into the wet bay. I caulked the base and it when away. Someone told me on the facebook page that we were not supposed to caulk the pan to the walls. Not sure of the reasoning but I would rather take my chances with it caulked and not have water making a mess of the basem*nt. If mine starts leaking again I will suspect the faucet as pointed out here unless another cause is found. If you find out more please share. Did you 'stop' the leak OR just block the pathway for the leak and it is still leaking somewhere? Personally...I prefer Finding/Identifying 'Source' of leak and then Fix that __________________ I took my Medication today. HAVE YOU? Dodge 3500 w/Tractor Motor US NAVY---USS Decatur DDG-31 | | |
04-05-2021, 07:02 AM | #11 | Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: So Calif Posts: 3,535 | There is absolutely no reason to caulk the pan/wall seperation. The pan goes up far enough to prevent water from going up and over. I am curious what exactly the dealer is caulking here. The shower door under the lower track needs some is all. A simple pressure test would find the leak fast. Most times its a cracked pex fitting, or a fitting that was not tightened up properly, or cross-threaded. The OP has a pipe/fitting leak. He should pull the faucet assembly out and check for leaks there, pressurized and water running. If none found, and the drain is not leaking, then the shower needs to be removed to check all the pex behind it. The dealer does not want to do this inspection since it will take time, and it is low profit for them. Not a hard job. Mostly grunt work. Have done it twice to my other trailers. Putting it back together takes patience. Especially the door and track system. That's what I would do before I ever took it back to the dealer. He is not addressing the root cause of the OP's leak. If the OP doesn't have those skills, maybe a mobile tech can address this. I always wonder about the dealers and their tech's skills. Some are lacking. "Yep, we will put our top guy on it." Then a 18 year old kid comes out...... "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results" __________________ 2020 Coachmen Leprechaun 270QB (COA Member) Jeep Wrangler toad for the dirt "Well done is better than well said"....Ben Franklin | | |
04-05-2021, 07:16 AM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Florence, MT Posts: 175 | Thanks to all. I do have an appointment with the dealer, a few weeks out. They did try slapping chalk on everything, around pan, up door edges, track, and the push in wall retainers. They did pull the faucet and said it looked like no leaks. In anticipation of having to remove the shower enclosure they had ordered a replacement. Meanwhile we're stopping up the water as it appears. Now I'll post my latest issue for comments/suggestions..... | | |
04-05-2021, 08:06 AM | #13 | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Turner Valley, Alberta Posts: 116 | Quote: Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit Did you 'stop' the leak OR just block the pathway for the leak and it is still leaking somewhere? Personally...I prefer Finding/Identifying 'Source' of leak and then Fix that Good point - in my case the caulk from the wall to the pan did fix the problem. To confirm I sprayed water at this joint and clearly had water leaking while doing so. Then added caulk to the joint inside the shower and no more water leaking. My pan must not: either go up the back side of the wall as should be, or has a crack in the pan at the bottom wall location. Thanks for your comment because I agree that masking a problem is not a solution. __________________ 2020 ORV Glacier Peak F28RKS Titanium 2021 GMC Denali 3500HD srw Duramax - Black Diamond edition | | |
04-05-2021, 10:40 AM | #14 | Registered User Outdoors RV Owners Club Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: La Verne, Calif Posts: 3,649 | If there is only a leak when the shower is in use, it's the drain or between the shower valve and the shower head. Turn the water off at the head and on at the valve and check. | | |
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